Iron Palm

[DStone]

I would love to open up a discussion about iron palm training. The are so many schools of thought and approaches to this type of training, I think this would be a worthwhile subject to discuss and debate.

[yu shan]

I thought Shifu Mike Biggies iron palm presentation at the MQ gathering was insightful and interesting. I hope it makes it on the DVD Steve is putting together.

DStone,
I began iron palm training in my teens. So, I have been practicing the art for about thirty years, maybe more. Most instructors would say I have done most everything wrong. I started too young, practiced too hard and rarely have used any type of jow. Yet despite all that, my palm strikes have proven quite effective and my forty-seven year old hands have suffered no injuries from my training.
Though I will admit that the point of my training was to develop hands that could produce devastating effects on the human body rather than demonstrating how many boards and blocks I could break.
In my opinion, the ability to break inanimate objects has no relationship to effective palm/fist techniques against the hard and soft tissues of the human body.
I also believe that jow only provides a placebo effect in iron palm training. Proper training negates the need for jow.
(Richard now closes his can of worms)

Please note that this is only my opinion and does not reflect the opinion of most of my Kung Fu brothers, or past instructors.

[Three Harmonies]

Richard
Is Iron Palm training an integral part of the Mad Monkey system? Seems to fit if you know what I mean.
Jake

PS I am not much help since all the Iron Palm I have learned is from Mike Biggie, with some addtional help from Steve Cottrell Laoshi.

Originally Posted by Three Harmonies

Richard
Is Iron Palm training an integral part of the Mad Monkey system? Seems to fit if you know what I mean.
Jake

Jake,
Yes, it is a part of the Angry Monkey system. For those who choose to use some type of Jow, I point them to Mike Biggie (an expert on Chinese herbalism), or my student Gino Belfiore (who can provide them with Kwong Wing Lam's version).

[Three Harmonies]

Do you think Wing Lam's formula is better than Biggies?
Sorry, sorry, ANGRY frickin Monkey! Cousin of the more dreaded Mad Monkey, cuz he's CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

Cheers
Jake

[Slawomir Milczarek]

Originally Posted by DStone

I would love to open up a discussion about iron palm training. The are so many schools of thought and approaches to this type of training, I think this would be a worthwhile subject to discuss and debate.

Hi,

Tie sha zhang - iron palm training in Yantai enought only 100 days. Most important is only medicine after and before training it is secret formula one element is sulphur. Iron palm training in Yantai is very hard and dangerous but when we have good teacher will be OK. The best age for training is age beetween 18 - 24 and most important during this 100 days no sex .

Slawomir Milczarek